1 00:00:24,819 --> 00:00:16,080 [Music] 2 00:00:26,080 --> 00:00:24,829 hello my name is Eric Maddox I'm a 3 00:00:28,479 --> 00:00:26,090 graduate student at the University of 4 00:00:30,519 --> 00:00:28,489 Colorado and like to speak to you today 5 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:30,529 about some research I did on machine 6 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:34,370 mediated remote viewing my interest in 7 00:00:40,900 --> 00:00:37,610 this was really the data in remote 8 00:00:43,330 --> 00:00:40,910 viewing if if you have a target that's 9 00:00:44,620 --> 00:00:43,340 here in at a location in time and then 10 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:44,630 you have a remote viewer which is over 11 00:00:47,950 --> 00:00:46,370 here my interest is in this middle 12 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:47,960 section that's what was really 13 00:00:53,170 --> 00:00:52,010 motivating me to do this this is my 14 00:00:56,290 --> 00:00:53,180 favorite definition for remote viewing 15 00:00:57,640 --> 00:00:56,300 actually comes from Ingo Swann remote 16 00:00:59,530 --> 00:00:57,650 viewing provides information about 17 00:01:02,760 --> 00:00:59,540 things and situations distant in space 18 00:01:05,439 --> 00:01:02,770 and time from local story ambience I 19 00:01:08,980 --> 00:01:05,449 think this is the best definition that 20 00:01:10,660 --> 00:01:08,990 I've come across the initial remote 21 00:01:12,789 --> 00:01:10,670 viewing research modern remote viewing 22 00:01:16,989 --> 00:01:12,799 research was done at SR I in the early 23 00:01:18,999 --> 00:01:16,999 70s they really codified remote viewing 24 00:01:21,550 --> 00:01:19,009 and came up with a protocol to follow to 25 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:21,560 get accurate results and repeatable 26 00:01:26,109 --> 00:01:24,530 results this was funded by this Central 27 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:26,119 Intelligence Agency because they saw it 28 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:28,130 as a means of being able to gather 29 00:01:38,559 --> 00:01:36,789 this was later handed off to the Defense 30 00:01:41,349 --> 00:01:38,569 Intelligence Agency where you get these 31 00:01:43,449 --> 00:01:41,359 buzzword project names like Stargate - 32 00:01:46,209 --> 00:01:43,459 everybody has heard about who looks into 33 00:01:48,429 --> 00:01:46,219 remote viewing this program bounced 34 00:01:51,010 --> 00:01:48,439 around a lot ended up bouncing to SAIC 35 00:01:55,719 --> 00:01:51,020 in the 90s who continued the research 36 00:02:00,849 --> 00:01:55,729 and remote viewing the the output of 37 00:02:05,469 --> 00:02:00,859 this was good protocols for following to 38 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:05,479 get accurate results and there was an 39 00:02:08,350 --> 00:02:07,130 investigation that was done by the 40 00:02:11,890 --> 00:02:08,360 Central Intelligence Agency they 41 00:02:13,900 --> 00:02:11,900 actually hired a group of scientists to 42 00:02:15,190 --> 00:02:13,910 study the remote viewing data and they 43 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:15,200 said you know we what we want you to 44 00:02:19,370 --> 00:02:16,450 look at this we want you to make an 45 00:02:22,070 --> 00:02:19,380 honest evaluation after 46 00:02:23,690 --> 00:02:22,080 many months of research the ultimate 47 00:02:26,060 --> 00:02:23,700 output in the in the report was that 48 00:02:28,100 --> 00:02:26,070 there is a significant amount of 49 00:02:30,380 --> 00:02:28,110 accurate data being collected in these 50 00:02:32,030 --> 00:02:30,390 recent remote viewing experiments even 51 00:02:35,180 --> 00:02:32,040 though that was the ultimate output of 52 00:02:38,150 --> 00:02:35,190 this investigation into remote viewing 53 00:02:41,030 --> 00:02:38,160 the program was defunded really CIA 54 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:41,040 wanted an excuse to defund it so this 55 00:02:44,870 --> 00:02:42,810 was just kind of they try to use this as 56 00:02:48,170 --> 00:02:44,880 the reason but didn't doesn't really 57 00:02:49,850 --> 00:02:48,180 hold up logically the machine and my 58 00:02:52,010 --> 00:02:49,860 machine media remote viewing is our 59 00:02:54,380 --> 00:02:52,020 random number generators random number 60 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:54,390 generators are simple machines that 61 00:02:58,160 --> 00:02:56,850 output random sequences of ones and 62 00:03:00,320 --> 00:02:58,170 zeros they're sometimes called 63 00:03:02,150 --> 00:03:00,330 electronic coin flippers because you get 64 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:02,160 one output or another completely 65 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:05,370 randomly random number generator 66 00:03:08,230 --> 00:03:06,810 research has been going on for quite 67 00:03:10,310 --> 00:03:08,240 some time 68 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:10,320 how much MIT did some of the early 69 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:12,450 research he did his in the late 60s and 70 00:03:16,670 --> 00:03:15,330 early 70s here's a picture of one of his 71 00:03:18,380 --> 00:03:16,680 machines that he used in his research 72 00:03:20,920 --> 00:03:18,390 where he hooked up a random number 73 00:03:23,690 --> 00:03:20,930 generator to a bank of four lights and 74 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:23,700 he used this to try and get people to 75 00:03:29,060 --> 00:03:25,290 judge which light was going to be lit up 76 00:03:32,330 --> 00:03:29,070 by the random number generator later on 77 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:32,340 in the 90s pear research labs did a 78 00:03:37,010 --> 00:03:34,170 meta-analysis of random number generator 79 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:37,020 data and they came to two very important 80 00:03:42,830 --> 00:03:39,810 conclusions one random number generators 81 00:03:45,500 --> 00:03:42,840 output our is completely random when to 82 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:45,510 those random number generators outputs 83 00:03:50,210 --> 00:03:47,610 do deviate from random when they're 84 00:03:51,500 --> 00:03:50,220 involved inside experiments so because 85 00:03:53,210 --> 00:03:51,510 of this this is why I really wanted to 86 00:03:57,170 --> 00:03:53,220 use a random number generator as the 87 00:03:58,490 --> 00:03:57,180 machine in my experiments this is the 88 00:04:01,449 --> 00:03:58,500 picture of the machine I use it's a 89 00:04:05,030 --> 00:04:01,459 Siler on random number generator it's a 90 00:04:08,300 --> 00:04:05,040 small metallic case about the size of a 91 00:04:13,010 --> 00:04:08,310 deck of cards roughly it's very in 92 00:04:14,510 --> 00:04:13,020 obtrusive easy to use it should be noted 93 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:14,520 that these random generators are 94 00:04:18,289 --> 00:04:16,650 protected in that they are not 95 00:04:20,780 --> 00:04:18,299 influenced by electromagnetic 96 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:20,790 interference RF radiation or even 97 00:04:27,590 --> 00:04:24,650 thermal emission so they're very stable 98 00:04:29,030 --> 00:04:27,600 my experimental objective was I propose 99 00:04:31,370 --> 00:04:29,040 that remote viewing could be carried out 100 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:31,380 using human subjects who are 101 00:04:36,500 --> 00:04:33,090 unconsciously producing images of 102 00:04:38,210 --> 00:04:36,510 via a local random number generator now 103 00:04:40,460 --> 00:04:38,220 my procedures for my experiment were 104 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:40,470 kind of twofold I had two different 105 00:04:43,909 --> 00:04:41,970 groups that I ran this experiment on the 106 00:04:46,100 --> 00:04:43,919 first group was what I call non 107 00:04:47,629 --> 00:04:46,110 experienced this comprised primarily of 108 00:04:50,140 --> 00:04:47,639 engineering students at the University 109 00:04:52,850 --> 00:04:50,150 of Colorado and to say they were 110 00:04:54,830 --> 00:04:52,860 skeptical as an understatement they did 111 00:04:57,590 --> 00:04:54,840 not believe in this at all but they 112 00:04:59,480 --> 00:04:57,600 volunteered I appreciated and they went 113 00:05:04,270 --> 00:04:59,490 through the experiment the second group 114 00:05:06,860 --> 00:05:04,280 is experienced now by this I mean I had 115 00:05:09,550 --> 00:05:06,870 self-reported psychics people with 116 00:05:11,659 --> 00:05:09,560 spirit guides that gave them answers 117 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:11,669 professional remote viewers they do this 118 00:05:15,980 --> 00:05:13,530 for a living so that was my second group 119 00:05:17,890 --> 00:05:15,990 now in my experiment I had two unique 120 00:05:21,050 --> 00:05:17,900 procedures the first one being a 121 00:05:22,879 --> 00:05:21,060 standard or typical remote viewing 122 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:22,889 procedure where there's a target and the 123 00:05:26,900 --> 00:05:24,810 person would remote view that target to 124 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:26,910 get the information about it the second 125 00:05:33,140 --> 00:05:30,570 procedure III term psychokinesis really 126 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:33,150 at that point I had the person get a 127 00:05:36,020 --> 00:05:34,530 target and then they were able to see 128 00:05:37,969 --> 00:05:36,030 and look at that target and then I 129 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:37,979 wanted them to project that information 130 00:05:44,690 --> 00:05:41,130 out there so those are the two sides of 131 00:05:49,850 --> 00:05:44,700 my little equation all of the targets 132 00:05:52,310 --> 00:05:49,860 in my experiment were Zener cards all of 133 00:05:53,870 --> 00:05:52,320 the data that I collected that I 134 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:53,880 considered a real important came from 135 00:05:56,810 --> 00:05:55,289 the Sylar on random number generator 136 00:05:59,300 --> 00:05:56,820 which was collecting data while the 137 00:06:01,850 --> 00:05:59,310 experiment was taking place for the 138 00:06:04,100 --> 00:06:01,860 judging of images at the end of the 139 00:06:06,140 --> 00:06:04,110 experiment we used the SSRI system I'll 140 00:06:08,089 --> 00:06:06,150 explain that a little more later to 141 00:06:09,860 --> 00:06:08,099 judge the drawings versus the Zener 142 00:06:11,540 --> 00:06:09,870 cards it should be noted that no 143 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:11,550 feedback was given to their participants 144 00:06:18,159 --> 00:06:15,690 during this experiment this is a real 145 00:06:20,659 --> 00:06:18,169 simple diagram of the experimental setup 146 00:06:23,029 --> 00:06:20,669 it was a conference room which was 147 00:06:24,050 --> 00:06:23,039 private he closed the doors the subjects 148 00:06:25,700 --> 00:06:24,060 sat on one side of the table the 149 00:06:27,650 --> 00:06:25,710 experimenter sat on the other the 150 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:27,660 experiment an experimenter had access to 151 00:06:31,810 --> 00:06:30,090 a laptop computer which ran the random 152 00:06:35,930 --> 00:06:31,820 number generator and collected the data 153 00:06:37,700 --> 00:06:35,940 the subject was never able to see the 154 00:06:40,070 --> 00:06:37,710 computer itself and many of them didn't 155 00:06:41,870 --> 00:06:40,080 really care of all the subjects that 156 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:41,880 were tested only one person asked what 157 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:44,610 that little box was on the table he says 158 00:06:46,410 --> 00:06:45,930 what's that and I said oh well that's a 159 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:46,420 device for 160 00:06:50,370 --> 00:06:48,130 collecting data they go okay and 161 00:06:51,330 --> 00:06:50,380 everything was fine so nobody seemed to 162 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:51,340 care that the random number generator 163 00:06:57,180 --> 00:06:55,570 was right there in this room IRB consent 164 00:06:59,640 --> 00:06:57,190 forms that's the investigational Review 165 00:07:00,810 --> 00:06:59,650 Board that's the entity at the college 166 00:07:04,050 --> 00:07:00,820 that protects the rights of people 167 00:07:05,610 --> 00:07:04,060 taking part in experiments was gone over 168 00:07:06,990 --> 00:07:05,620 any questions were answer that the 169 00:07:08,280 --> 00:07:07,000 participants had and then the 170 00:07:11,550 --> 00:07:08,290 experimental procedures were explained 171 00:07:14,370 --> 00:07:11,560 and the experiment began the first 172 00:07:17,430 --> 00:07:14,380 procedure is remote viewing very first 173 00:07:19,620 --> 00:07:17,440 step subject has to randomly select the 174 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:19,630 target now there were 25 sealed 175 00:07:25,290 --> 00:07:21,610 envelopes each one of those contained a 176 00:07:27,690 --> 00:07:25,300 zine or card the experimenter knew that 177 00:07:30,270 --> 00:07:27,700 the target was a Zener card but you did 178 00:07:33,900 --> 00:07:30,280 not know which Zener card was in there 179 00:07:35,850 --> 00:07:33,910 so it was both parties were unaware the 180 00:07:37,530 --> 00:07:35,860 should be noted the the person doing the 181 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:37,540 remote viewing they had no idea of what 182 00:07:40,620 --> 00:07:39,250 the targets were they just said yeah 183 00:07:43,020 --> 00:07:40,630 there's a target there's a picture and 184 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:43,030 they're of a location or object we want 185 00:07:49,260 --> 00:07:47,410 you to describe it the participant was 186 00:07:51,930 --> 00:07:49,270 then given two minutes during that two 187 00:07:54,270 --> 00:07:51,940 minutes the participant made hand 188 00:07:57,210 --> 00:07:54,280 drawings or wrote down a description of 189 00:07:59,400 --> 00:07:57,220 what they thought that target was during 190 00:08:01,110 --> 00:07:59,410 that two minutes time the random numbers 191 00:08:04,260 --> 00:08:01,120 were being collected with the cylon 192 00:08:08,250 --> 00:08:04,270 random number generator for procedure to 193 00:08:10,260 --> 00:08:08,260 the psychokinesis experiment the person 194 00:08:12,030 --> 00:08:10,270 has to select a target now this is where 195 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:12,040 it's slightly different at this point 196 00:08:16,110 --> 00:08:14,290 this person was allowed to open that car 197 00:08:18,270 --> 00:08:16,120 but an envelope and take the card out 198 00:08:19,830 --> 00:08:18,280 and we were very specifically say we 199 00:08:21,780 --> 00:08:19,840 open the card take it out do not show 200 00:08:24,030 --> 00:08:21,790 the experimenter we want you to look at 201 00:08:25,820 --> 00:08:24,040 the card and for one minute's time we 202 00:08:28,380 --> 00:08:25,830 want you to concentrate on that card 203 00:08:29,790 --> 00:08:28,390 focus on it we want you to look at it 204 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:29,800 and draw it over and over again in your 205 00:08:36,030 --> 00:08:34,090 head and so it base it okay and during 206 00:08:40,020 --> 00:08:36,040 that time the numbers were collected 207 00:08:41,730 --> 00:08:40,030 from the random number generator now I 208 00:08:44,820 --> 00:08:41,740 need to explain to you how we created 209 00:08:46,680 --> 00:08:44,830 images with these strings of random 210 00:08:48,630 --> 00:08:46,690 numbers up at the top I have some sample 211 00:08:50,010 --> 00:08:48,640 data from the random number generator so 212 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:50,020 this essentially is a string of ones and 213 00:08:56,070 --> 00:08:54,130 zeros these strings of data then we're 214 00:08:58,200 --> 00:08:56,080 taken and they were turned into a 215 00:09:00,360 --> 00:08:58,210 rasterized image I would take the first 216 00:09:02,100 --> 00:09:00,370 100 bits of data 217 00:09:07,470 --> 00:09:02,110 and I would assign them to these bit 218 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:07,480 locations here on this map so in 219 00:09:12,540 --> 00:09:10,450 location one if the number was a one I 220 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:12,550 put a dot there I filled in that hole 221 00:09:17,670 --> 00:09:15,250 there was a zero I left it blank I did 222 00:09:19,650 --> 00:09:17,680 this for all of these locations so those 223 00:09:22,560 --> 00:09:19,660 first hundred bits would create this 224 00:09:24,420 --> 00:09:22,570 very crude rough image for every session 225 00:09:27,450 --> 00:09:24,430 that I did there's roughly fifty 226 00:09:29,010 --> 00:09:27,460 thousand bits of data that's a lot of 227 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:29,020 images I mean it's several hundred 228 00:09:32,820 --> 00:09:31,210 images per session and because there 229 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:32,830 were so many images we had to have a way 230 00:09:39,470 --> 00:09:35,170 of pairing that down to something we 231 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:39,480 could analyze easily this is the 232 00:09:44,220 --> 00:09:42,250 averaging algorithm that we used we took 233 00:09:46,110 --> 00:09:44,230 these hundreds of images and then we 234 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:46,120 looked at every specific location and 235 00:09:53,579 --> 00:09:48,250 then we created an average for that 236 00:09:55,740 --> 00:09:53,589 location if that average number was less 237 00:09:58,700 --> 00:09:55,750 than five well that was a zero and that 238 00:10:01,890 --> 00:09:58,710 position was left blank if that average 239 00:10:03,630 --> 00:10:01,900 was greater than 0.5 then we put a dot 240 00:10:05,130 --> 00:10:03,640 there and so we created an average image 241 00:10:07,410 --> 00:10:05,140 from these hundreds of images that we 242 00:10:10,610 --> 00:10:07,420 created and that final averaged image is 243 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:10,620 what we actually used we did our judging 244 00:10:17,010 --> 00:10:14,410 the image judging itself we judged both 245 00:10:19,260 --> 00:10:17,020 the remote viewing and the piqué images 246 00:10:20,540 --> 00:10:19,270 we used the SSRI ranking system which 247 00:10:25,079 --> 00:10:20,550 for a forced-choice 248 00:10:26,550 --> 00:10:25,089 ranking we had a ranks of 1 through 5 we 249 00:10:28,560 --> 00:10:26,560 knew what the targets were they were the 250 00:10:31,110 --> 00:10:28,570 senior cards so we would give a score of 251 00:10:34,290 --> 00:10:31,120 5 if the image looked the most like the 252 00:10:36,030 --> 00:10:34,300 target score 1 if it looked the least 253 00:10:39,090 --> 00:10:36,040 like the target so we have this nice 254 00:10:42,090 --> 00:10:39,100 little range of numbers and it should be 255 00:10:44,010 --> 00:10:42,100 noted all judging was done after all of 256 00:10:45,329 --> 00:10:44,020 the data was collected so this was like 257 00:10:50,190 --> 00:10:45,339 kind of like the final step was the 258 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:50,200 judging here's an example on the left 259 00:10:53,430 --> 00:10:51,850 hand side we have the subject hand 260 00:10:55,680 --> 00:10:53,440 drawing during a remote viewing session 261 00:10:58,590 --> 00:10:55,690 and then on the right hand side we have 262 00:11:00,030 --> 00:10:58,600 the averaged image that was created from 263 00:11:02,730 --> 00:11:00,040 the random number generator and in the 264 00:11:04,650 --> 00:11:02,740 center we have the targets the judging 265 00:11:05,570 --> 00:11:04,660 judges looked at this made their 266 00:11:08,340 --> 00:11:05,580 decision 267 00:11:10,560 --> 00:11:08,350 you can see here both of these images 268 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:10,570 the judges say hey you know this looks 269 00:11:13,630 --> 00:11:12,490 the most like wavy lines so they give it 270 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:13,640 a score of 5 271 00:11:18,220 --> 00:11:15,890 and then on down the judge is not 272 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:18,230 exactly the same for the two images but 273 00:11:24,670 --> 00:11:21,410 you can see here for the most alike they 274 00:11:27,130 --> 00:11:24,680 both agreed that it was wavy lines these 275 00:11:29,170 --> 00:11:27,140 are the locations that the judges he saw 276 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:29,180 these wavy lines we said oh yeah I see 277 00:11:33,820 --> 00:11:31,250 wavy lines this is where I see it and 278 00:11:37,180 --> 00:11:33,830 when we actually finally looked at the 279 00:11:40,420 --> 00:11:37,190 results the target was the wavy lines so 280 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:40,430 this would be considered a strong hit in 281 00:11:46,510 --> 00:11:43,010 the second example we looked at these 282 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:46,520 two drawings made our judgments here the 283 00:11:50,380 --> 00:11:48,890 judgments are slightly different for the 284 00:11:52,750 --> 00:11:50,390 hand-drawn image we thought it looked 285 00:11:54,340 --> 00:11:52,760 most like the square and for the random 286 00:11:55,390 --> 00:11:54,350 number generator generated image we 287 00:11:57,760 --> 00:11:55,400 thought it looked more like a cross 288 00:11:59,710 --> 00:11:57,770 here's those images that we saw that we 289 00:12:04,540 --> 00:11:59,720 use for judging and when we finally got 290 00:12:07,540 --> 00:12:04,550 the target it was across now these are 291 00:12:09,430 --> 00:12:07,550 both hits but the random number 292 00:12:11,020 --> 00:12:09,440 generator produced an image that was a 293 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:11,030 stronger hit it had a score of 5 so it 294 00:12:16,270 --> 00:12:12,890 was a stronger hit than the score of 4 295 00:12:17,980 --> 00:12:16,280 we had for the hand-drawn image third 296 00:12:20,560 --> 00:12:17,990 example I like this one because it's a 297 00:12:22,390 --> 00:12:20,570 little more just more disparity for here 298 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:22,400 the hand-drawn image we said this looks 299 00:12:27,730 --> 00:12:24,170 like a circle this is this is a strong 300 00:12:29,980 --> 00:12:27,740 circle whereas on the generated image we 301 00:12:31,300 --> 00:12:29,990 said this looks like wavy lines here I 302 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:31,310 mean here's the locations that we made 303 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:33,050 these judgments for these are very 304 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:34,850 different in in judging between these 305 00:12:40,930 --> 00:12:39,170 two when we finally got the targets it 306 00:12:43,030 --> 00:12:40,940 was wavy lines so this would be a 307 00:12:45,670 --> 00:12:43,040 complete miss on the hand-drawn image 308 00:12:49,030 --> 00:12:45,680 but a strong hit on the random number 309 00:12:53,770 --> 00:12:49,040 generated image so it'll be fun here's 310 00:12:55,810 --> 00:12:53,780 an example by a show of hands who thinks 311 00:13:05,090 --> 00:12:55,820 who sees a star most likely in this 312 00:13:22,370 --> 00:13:13,240 about wavy lines all right how about a 313 00:13:26,300 --> 00:13:22,380 circle okay well let's take a look at 314 00:13:29,060 --> 00:13:26,310 what this the judges saw the judges saw 315 00:13:30,740 --> 00:13:29,070 this as white wavy lines they saw that 316 00:13:34,250 --> 00:13:30,750 and that was the strongest followed by 317 00:13:36,740 --> 00:13:34,260 circle star cross and square when you 318 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:36,750 look at what the actual target was well 319 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:39,170 there's there's what the judges saw 320 00:13:42,890 --> 00:13:41,370 target was wavy line so everybody raise 321 00:13:44,450 --> 00:13:42,900 her hand and wave you Lions which by the 322 00:13:46,610 --> 00:13:44,460 way was the majority of the people that 323 00:13:47,300 --> 00:13:46,620 raised their hand in this room you were 324 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:47,310 correct 325 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:49,410 that that's the way the judges work 326 00:13:53,930 --> 00:13:51,530 that's what the target actually was 327 00:13:58,820 --> 00:13:53,940 let's do an example with the hand-drawn 328 00:14:06,670 --> 00:13:58,830 image who sees a circle surprise okay 329 00:14:13,100 --> 00:14:06,680 how about a cross wavy lines Square and 330 00:14:14,780 --> 00:14:13,110 star all right of course 331 00:14:17,170 --> 00:14:14,790 the judges when they saw it they saw the 332 00:14:21,290 --> 00:14:17,180 circle - like most everybody did here 333 00:14:23,660 --> 00:14:21,300 they then saw a star and people who 334 00:14:25,730 --> 00:14:23,670 didn't look around by far everybody 335 00:14:26,990 --> 00:14:25,740 raised their hand with round the second 336 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:27,000 most which had three people raised their 337 00:14:32,270 --> 00:14:30,330 hand was a star and then down with the 338 00:14:36,380 --> 00:14:32,280 other ones so this is what the judges 339 00:14:38,450 --> 00:14:36,390 saw that's what the target was so even 340 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:38,460 in this room the judging is very similar 341 00:14:45,620 --> 00:14:40,850 to the way the judges judge these images 342 00:14:48,940 --> 00:14:45,630 which is good real quick this is how I 343 00:14:51,890 --> 00:14:48,950 determine statistical significance for 344 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:51,900 after we judged all the images I want to 345 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:54,210 go into the math let's look at these 346 00:14:57,110 --> 00:14:55,530 different groups now if a group one was 347 00:15:00,200 --> 00:14:57,120 the inexperienced group primarily the 348 00:15:03,410 --> 00:15:00,210 engineering students this is all of the 349 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:03,420 data collected of that the majority this 350 00:15:10,490 --> 00:15:08,010 was not significant however we did find 351 00:15:12,650 --> 00:15:10,500 significance in the raster remote viewed 352 00:15:14,390 --> 00:15:12,660 rasterized images and especially when we 353 00:15:16,130 --> 00:15:14,400 combine the remote viewing and the PK 354 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:16,140 images we definitely found strong 355 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:17,970 significance 356 00:15:24,410 --> 00:15:22,290 four hits in group two the experienced 357 00:15:25,910 --> 00:15:24,420 group this is the professional psychics 358 00:15:29,749 --> 00:15:25,920 professional remote viewers people with 359 00:15:32,119 --> 00:15:29,759 experience with Sai they were primarily 360 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:32,129 insignificant they didn't really do so 361 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:35,490 well there was one area of significance 362 00:15:42,050 --> 00:15:38,490 and this is with when we combine them 363 00:15:43,579 --> 00:15:42,060 our be in the pk an analysis significant 364 00:15:45,439 --> 00:15:43,589 results supports our hypothesis that 365 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:45,449 remote viewing can be done and carried 366 00:15:47,780 --> 00:15:46,170 out by humans 367 00:15:50,540 --> 00:15:47,790 unconsciously producing these images 368 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:50,550 with RNG data some interesting 369 00:15:54,889 --> 00:15:52,290 observations when you compare the hand 370 00:15:57,319 --> 00:15:54,899 drawn images to the rasterized images a 371 00:15:59,929 --> 00:15:57,329 couple questions pop up was some aspect 372 00:16:02,329 --> 00:15:59,939 of hand drawings inhibiting Sai or where 373 00:16:04,420 --> 00:16:02,339 the subjects conscious minds influencing 374 00:16:07,069 --> 00:16:04,430 the data in some way 375 00:16:09,259 --> 00:16:07,079 well we conclude that analytical overlay 376 00:16:11,179 --> 00:16:09,269 is taking place now real quickly 377 00:16:13,009 --> 00:16:11,189 analytical overlay if the target was a 378 00:16:14,809 --> 00:16:13,019 fork and you analyte to be overlaid when 379 00:16:17,059 --> 00:16:14,819 you start seeing these images your brain 380 00:16:19,249 --> 00:16:17,069 will start to fill in gaps to something 381 00:16:20,809 --> 00:16:19,259 you recognize like here somebody the 382 00:16:22,790 --> 00:16:20,819 target was a fork somebody said oh it's 383 00:16:24,139 --> 00:16:22,800 a paintbrush you can see the similarity 384 00:16:26,660 --> 00:16:24,149 or somebody said oh it's a hand I see 385 00:16:28,340 --> 00:16:26,670 the fingers on the hand so this is 386 00:16:30,170 --> 00:16:28,350 analytical overlay and we believe that 387 00:16:31,790 --> 00:16:30,180 this new process based upon our data can 388 00:16:35,119 --> 00:16:31,800 eliminate this analytical overlay which 389 00:16:40,249 --> 00:16:35,129 is a problem in remote viewing another 390 00:16:41,569 --> 00:16:40,259 big question is where is Sai we we said 391 00:16:43,309 --> 00:16:41,579 this is a sign the judges or it's in the 392 00:16:45,139 --> 00:16:43,319 participants well we had a control group 393 00:16:47,259 --> 00:16:45,149 that we also looked at to try and 394 00:16:49,929 --> 00:16:47,269 determine that here's the control group 395 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:49,939 it was insignificant in a lot of cases 396 00:16:55,910 --> 00:16:53,370 but there was significant significance 397 00:16:58,549 --> 00:16:55,920 in the remote viewing portion of the 398 00:17:00,949 --> 00:16:58,559 rasterized images so Group one we had 399 00:17:03,499 --> 00:17:00,959 significant psy results group two we had 400 00:17:05,210 --> 00:17:03,509 n significant results and in this 401 00:17:08,299 --> 00:17:05,220 control group there was a significant 402 00:17:10,130 --> 00:17:08,309 sign missing results so he's a site with 403 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:10,140 judges we don't think so there's a 404 00:17:13,220 --> 00:17:11,970 disparity in this group and I think it 405 00:17:16,399 --> 00:17:13,230 points to the location with side being 406 00:17:18,289 --> 00:17:16,409 what the subjects being tested that 407 00:17:21,710 --> 00:17:18,299 tested that control groups see more I 408 00:17:24,260 --> 00:17:21,720 would like you to meet Seymour Seymour 409 00:17:25,730 --> 00:17:24,270 is a philodendron it was actually 410 00:17:27,350 --> 00:17:25,740 provided to us by Brenda done for 411 00:17:29,330 --> 00:17:27,360 another experiment in plant 412 00:17:31,750 --> 00:17:29,340 consciousness but I had the plant there 413 00:17:36,289 --> 00:17:31,760 so I went ahead and used Seymour 414 00:17:36,940 --> 00:17:36,299 so that was our control group what does 415 00:17:39,169 --> 00:17:36,950 this mean 416 00:17:41,180 --> 00:17:39,179 well maybe Seymour possesses a 417 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:41,190 consciousness and is producing strongly 418 00:17:46,330 --> 00:17:43,890 significant sign missing results I have 419 00:17:49,190 --> 00:17:46,340 no way of invalidating that possibility 420 00:17:51,169 --> 00:17:49,200 one judge there was one judge that knew 421 00:17:52,340 --> 00:17:51,179 who Seymour was and maybe they 422 00:17:53,870 --> 00:17:52,350 influenced the judging with the 423 00:17:56,840 --> 00:17:53,880 subconscious belief that plants should 424 00:17:58,490 --> 00:17:56,850 exhibits I'm missing I was that judge 425 00:18:02,029 --> 00:17:58,500 that knew that I don't think that 426 00:18:03,919 --> 00:18:02,039 because that's not a belief I hold the 427 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:03,929 third one see more results point two 428 00:18:09,020 --> 00:18:05,610 sigh not being with the judges but 429 00:18:10,340 --> 00:18:09,030 rather with the the significant patterns 430 00:18:12,830 --> 00:18:10,350 of the subjects and not the judges 431 00:18:14,360 --> 00:18:12,840 themselves so a conclusion 432 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:14,370 remote viewing can be carried out in 433 00:18:18,860 --> 00:18:16,650 this manner and we think we need to 434 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:18,870 investigate this further to see how far 435 00:18:33,300 --> 00:18:21,970 we can actually take this thank you 436 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:35,260 Thank You Erik there's quite a bit of 437 00:18:41,110 --> 00:18:38,290 time to questions because you're early 438 00:18:42,430 --> 00:18:41,120 interesting work Erik why a hundred by 439 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:42,440 hundred why not two hundred by two 440 00:18:45,910 --> 00:18:44,690 hundred why not 50/50 that image is 441 00:18:47,350 --> 00:18:45,920 completely arbitrary there's a there's 442 00:18:49,450 --> 00:18:47,360 an infinite number of ways that we can 443 00:18:52,570 --> 00:18:49,460 create an image from the data I had to 444 00:18:56,140 --> 00:18:52,580 pick one so I said okay ten by ten so 445 00:18:57,850 --> 00:18:56,150 that's a 100 you know bit there we can 446 00:18:59,620 --> 00:18:57,860 go back and we can start changing that 447 00:19:01,360 --> 00:18:59,630 and see are there other images that pop 448 00:19:03,580 --> 00:19:01,370 up when we go to a large area go to a 449 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:03,590 circular rasterization there are many 450 00:19:09,180 --> 00:19:04,850 different methods we can use I had to 451 00:19:14,890 --> 00:19:12,550 thank you very much question what were 452 00:19:17,830 --> 00:19:14,900 your instructions to the remote viewers 453 00:19:20,170 --> 00:19:17,840 in terms of what they were expected to 454 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:20,180 produce in my experience you need 455 00:19:25,120 --> 00:19:22,250 several kinds of remote viewing people 456 00:19:26,530 --> 00:19:25,130 that are more or less automatic in the 457 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:26,540 handwriting and drawing 458 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:29,810 others that are more visual so what was 459 00:19:34,030 --> 00:19:31,970 any particular instruction you gave them 460 00:19:35,620 --> 00:19:34,040 as to what they should focus on these 461 00:19:38,740 --> 00:19:35,630 specific instructions when they sat down 462 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:38,750 I said okay for for the group that had 463 00:19:40,900 --> 00:19:40,010 no experience with remote viewing they'd 464 00:19:42,700 --> 00:19:40,910 never done that they weren't they 465 00:19:44,350 --> 00:19:42,710 weren't aware I said okay there is a 466 00:19:47,170 --> 00:19:44,360 targeted in this car in this envelope 467 00:19:48,940 --> 00:19:47,180 the target is a picture of a location or 468 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:48,950 an object what I want you to do is sit 469 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:51,890 down relax and I want you to draw that 470 00:19:56,380 --> 00:19:53,570 image or you can use a descriptive 471 00:19:58,690 --> 00:19:56,390 wording to explain what that image is 472 00:20:00,610 --> 00:19:58,700 what is that object some people most 473 00:20:01,900 --> 00:20:00,620 people did a hand drawing of some sort 474 00:20:03,670 --> 00:20:01,910 but there were a few and one of my 475 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:03,680 examples showed there was a drawing and 476 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:05,810 there was words trying to describe what 477 00:20:10,420 --> 00:20:08,690 what they were perceiving so I really 478 00:20:12,730 --> 00:20:10,430 left it up to them there was only a few 479 00:20:16,780 --> 00:20:12,740 people that wanted to verbalize it 480 00:20:19,810 --> 00:20:16,790 instead of writing it down for those 481 00:20:23,140 --> 00:20:19,820 people I I took notes I did not include 482 00:20:24,940 --> 00:20:23,150 that in the the data that I collected 483 00:20:26,740 --> 00:20:24,950 because it was kind of outside the 484 00:20:28,270 --> 00:20:26,750 bounds of how we were doing this but 485 00:20:30,940 --> 00:20:28,280 really I don't care about what they 486 00:20:32,350 --> 00:20:30,950 produced I didn't that part is the data 487 00:20:33,670 --> 00:20:32,360 I don't really care about I cared about 488 00:20:35,650 --> 00:20:33,680 what the random number generator was 489 00:20:36,850 --> 00:20:35,660 producing that's the data I was really 490 00:20:40,379 --> 00:20:36,860 interested and that's where we saw the 491 00:20:45,519 --> 00:20:43,509 it's just a question of a possible 492 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:45,529 confounding thing and I'm not sure about 493 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:47,330 this but I just throw it out is that 494 00:20:52,570 --> 00:20:49,730 when you look at these matrices that are 495 00:20:54,310 --> 00:20:52,580 that are created these image images that 496 00:20:56,830 --> 00:20:54,320 there may be more of a tendency to see 497 00:20:59,249 --> 00:20:56,840 one type of pattern than another like 498 00:21:01,659 --> 00:20:59,259 the wavy lines for example just because 499 00:21:02,799 --> 00:21:01,669 it's easier to hedge your bets when 500 00:21:05,860 --> 00:21:02,809 you're looking at those things to say 501 00:21:08,019 --> 00:21:05,870 okay it's wavy than any other I agree 502 00:21:10,869 --> 00:21:08,029 with what you're saying when I didn't 503 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:10,879 include it in here when I looked at what 504 00:21:15,669 --> 00:21:14,090 the judges thought things were the most 505 00:21:18,759 --> 00:21:15,679 what actually came up the most was cross 506 00:21:21,100 --> 00:21:18,769 what came up second was square I think 507 00:21:23,409 --> 00:21:21,110 that's a byproduct of it being a grid 508 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:23,419 system it's based upon squares in 509 00:21:26,710 --> 00:21:25,369 straight lines wavy lines actually 510 00:21:30,249 --> 00:21:26,720 didn't come up the most and when it did 511 00:21:31,509 --> 00:21:30,259 it was often a hit so the circle the 512 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:31,519 circle the wavy lines 513 00:21:36,789 --> 00:21:35,450 they weren't chosen as often so in so 514 00:21:38,409 --> 00:21:36,799 part of that is what you're saying 515 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:38,419 whereas you know that how are you 516 00:21:41,769 --> 00:21:40,369 creating the image I think that goes a 517 00:21:44,109 --> 00:21:41,779 long way that's how the judgment is 518 00:21:48,009 --> 00:21:44,119 being done so that is future work that 519 00:21:50,769 --> 00:21:48,019 needs to be looked into really 520 00:21:53,409 --> 00:21:50,779 interesting project I just wanted to 521 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:53,419 bring up in your abstract you had 522 00:21:57,820 --> 00:21:56,210 mentioned being able to mitigate sigh 523 00:22:00,430 --> 00:21:57,830 experimenter effect and I would like to 524 00:22:03,190 --> 00:22:00,440 caution you against that because we 525 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:03,200 don't know you know SIA is non spatial 526 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:05,330 and non temporal that no matter what you 527 00:22:09,639 --> 00:22:07,610 do so I can move anywhere and however it 528 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:09,649 won so you really can't I mean I you 529 00:22:12,789 --> 00:22:11,450 know it's a really interesting project 530 00:22:15,039 --> 00:22:12,799 like just leave it at that 531 00:22:17,139 --> 00:22:15,049 the other thing I would say is you know 532 00:22:18,850 --> 00:22:17,149 those were each square in the grid was 533 00:22:21,549 --> 00:22:18,860 rather large and the dot was rather 534 00:22:24,279 --> 00:22:21,559 small so there was so much white space I 535 00:22:27,609 --> 00:22:24,289 would wonder if you made a bigger dot in 536 00:22:30,430 --> 00:22:27,619 each square would with a picture be more 537 00:22:32,109 --> 00:22:30,440 we would participate the judges that's 538 00:22:33,340 --> 00:22:32,119 one of the things you can do after the 539 00:22:35,109 --> 00:22:33,350 fact as far as you have the images and 540 00:22:39,279 --> 00:22:35,119 they've been they've been created you 541 00:22:41,350 --> 00:22:39,289 can do forms of image rendering which 542 00:22:43,060 --> 00:22:41,360 would fill in lines and start connecting 543 00:22:44,499 --> 00:22:43,070 dots are right next to each other would 544 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:44,509 connect them and then kind of blend them 545 00:22:49,450 --> 00:22:47,450 and that could be done it wasn't done 546 00:22:51,430 --> 00:22:49,460 primarily for time to get the experiment 547 00:22:52,959 --> 00:22:51,440 finished but that's definitely stuff in 548 00:22:54,639 --> 00:22:52,969 the future that I do want to 549 00:22:56,499 --> 00:22:54,649 and then I would also caution you that 550 00:22:59,680 --> 00:22:56,509 you said you know I don't believe that 551 00:23:01,209 --> 00:22:59,690 I'm believing this but you don't have 552 00:23:04,029 --> 00:23:01,219 any control over what you believe you 553 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:04,039 believe that's why I cannot eliminate it 554 00:23:13,029 --> 00:23:05,570 I don't think so but I can't eliminate 555 00:23:14,499 --> 00:23:13,039 that possibility Roger okay maybe you 556 00:23:17,949 --> 00:23:14,509 could also do machine 557 00:23:20,109 --> 00:23:17,959 judging by just have pattern wreckless 558 00:23:31,180 --> 00:23:20,119 ed of patterns there that's all the 559 00:23:35,019 --> 00:23:31,190 books to be done yes York along the same 560 00:23:40,449 --> 00:23:35,029 lines of image processing that might 561 00:23:44,069 --> 00:23:40,459 make the the judge's job easier or a 562 00:23:47,409 --> 00:23:44,079 better fit to the human visual system 563 00:23:51,039 --> 00:23:47,419 rather than simply having a majority 564 00:23:54,789 --> 00:23:51,049 vote binary dot suppose you filled in 565 00:23:57,279 --> 00:23:54,799 the raster in boxes in grayscale ranging 566 00:23:59,199 --> 00:23:57,289 from black for the pixel that got the 567 00:24:02,019 --> 00:23:59,209 most hits to white for the one that got 568 00:24:04,329 --> 00:24:02,029 the fewest that's that's a great idea 569 00:24:06,369 --> 00:24:04,339 that's some of the it's another idea 570 00:24:08,709 --> 00:24:06,379 that we talked about we couldn't get 571 00:24:09,519 --> 00:24:08,719 that implemented in code in time to run 572 00:24:11,769 --> 00:24:09,529 it but that's something that could be 573 00:24:22,149 --> 00:24:11,779 done afterwards because we have all the 574 00:24:25,089 --> 00:24:22,159 data stored for these five pet patterns 575 00:24:28,539 --> 00:24:25,099 I know as you know cause like almost 576 00:24:30,729 --> 00:24:28,549 identical to humans but for the judge to 577 00:24:33,909 --> 00:24:30,739 check if the system has a bias have you 578 00:24:36,849 --> 00:24:33,919 see which car had the most hit what kind 579 00:24:39,099 --> 00:24:36,859 of car like is that a wave or a square 580 00:24:41,289 --> 00:24:39,109 had the most hit or they almost the hit 581 00:24:45,039 --> 00:24:41,299 rate had almost equivalent for all the 582 00:24:46,719 --> 00:24:45,049 patterns that's an issue I had with my 583 00:24:50,979 --> 00:24:46,729 data I did look at that specifically at 584 00:24:52,839 --> 00:24:50,989 targets one of the issues and I say they 585 00:24:54,249 --> 00:24:52,849 randomly selected a target out of the 586 00:24:54,909 --> 00:24:54,259 stack of envelopes well is that really 587 00:24:57,879 --> 00:24:54,919 random 588 00:25:00,099 --> 00:24:57,889 I say no based upon the number of 589 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:00,109 targets three targets kept popping up 590 00:25:05,460 --> 00:25:02,290 the most 591 00:25:06,900 --> 00:25:05,470 in these experiments so much so that it 592 00:25:12,420 --> 00:25:06,910 was significant how often they were 593 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:12,430 chosen is that a problem yeah in the 594 00:25:15,630 --> 00:25:13,570 future I think we could use a random 595 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:15,640 number generator to randomly select a 596 00:25:19,350 --> 00:25:17,770 target for them to look at and I think 597 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:19,360 that would kind of clean up some of that 598 00:25:26,870 --> 00:25:24,610 possible problem thank you very much 599 00:25:31,010 --> 00:25:26,880 Eric